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  Anointed Delusions of Grandeur

  by Kohanic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so here is something i've been wondering about.

  how do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen?

  is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?.

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  Bungi Bill

  My experience with those who claimed to be "annointed" was that they were very definitely affected by mental illness. One in particular that I can think of still requires intensive psychiatric treatment, 30+ years after first "partaking of the emblems."

  Those who regularly work with the mentally ill are generally in agreement that mental illness has number of common characteristics. One of these is deep religiosity, and another is having delusions of grandeur. Not, of course, that all religious people are necessarily mad! However, religion together with mental illness is not a good combination.
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  Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the 11/2017 study watchtower.......apparently not.

  is it really true that one can be happy without religion?

  certainly an individual can be happy without false religion, but a person cannot be truly happy unless he has a relationship with jehovah, who is described as “the happy god.” (1 tim.

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  Bungi Bill

  Is happiness without religion possible?

  Bloody right it is, as I have found out over the last 23 years!
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  Bungi Bill

  Goes to show you can make the bible say whatever you want"

  Put a good spin doctor on the job, and the possibilities are endless! (Happliy, though, the current lot of GB members aren't up to the task).

  
  
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  Name A Problem That Nationalism Has Solved

  by Fred Franztone in

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  2. friends

  are there any?.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Us" and "them" preceded nationalism by several thousand years.

  I have heard this explained as being the result of how the human species originally evolved in small groups, which (to me, at least!) seems feasible. The "Us" and "Them" attitude is still very much alive and well; one only has to look at sports teams - and, perhaps even more significantly - their supporters to see evidence of this.

  One achievement of nationalism was to at least lift this "Us" and "Them" tendency from out of the parochial level.

  (Others here have correctly also identified what has sometimes been termed "ultra-nationalism", and which is one of the building blocks of Fascism).
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  Rupert Murdoch

  by Alfred in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nfkz_g79eo.

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  Bungi Bill

  This is one of the reasons I don't bother anymore to read newspapers - unless I happen to be very bored, and someone else has paid for the thing!

  Also, I rather run out of unpleasant adjectives regarding the way this man lowered the standards of almost every newspaper he ever took over, just so he could increase its circulation. The word "scary" would hardly even begin to describe the situation we have where one person controls so much of the world's media. (Whether printed or electronic).
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  Bungi Bill

  pale.emperor,

  In 1990, it was calculated that 5% of the publishers in our circuit were suffering from M.E. (or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - CFS - as it is now most commonly known as). I recall its victims including Special Pioneers and the like. It even seemed that the more "active" you were in "Jehovahs Organisation", the more likely you were to be afflicted by M.E. / CFS. Youth offered no protection, either. In our congregation, even some children were suffering from M.E. / CFS.

  However, in the 23 years that have gone by since I broke with that lot, I have known only one person who was diagnosed as having that complaint. It would seem that it does indeed afflict JWs more than the population in general.
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  Aliens

  by Jayk in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i thought i was weird that i believe in aliens.

  until i remembered that people believe there is a god..

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  Bungi Bill

  After what came to be known in New Zealand as the "Kaikoura lights", I always figured that you cannot deny the existence of UFOs. During the months of December 1978 and January 1979, UFOs were repeatedly sighted from the Wellington-Christchurch cargo flight, then operated by Safe Air.

  Not only were these "objects" observed by the flight crew, but were also detected by both the aircaft's onboard radar, as well as that at Wellington Airport's Air Traffic Control Centre. Furthermore, on the night of the 30th December, these objects were also filmed by an Australian TV crew who were aboard the aircraft.

  When these objects were observed by up to five different people while at the same time being detected by two different sets of radar - AND recorded on movie film - it is very hard to deny their existence! (People can perhaps suffer from hallucinations, but radars and movie cameras?). Of course, UFOs don't necessarily mean aliens.
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  Bungi Bill

  I have seen many people saddled with student debt and no marketable skills.

  A lot to do with what university course a person . I know of persons who have taken a degree in Fine Arts, and wonder why they cannot get a job.
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  Hell Exists

  by Poppy520 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.

  examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.

  nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".

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  Bungi Bill

  I guess I know where I am heading for, then!
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  Bungi Bill

  the higher education ban screwed the Jws growing up in the eighties and nineties mostly.
  

  And those growing up in the sixties and seventies, too. ( #%^ the lot of them! )